<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: The language we use</title>
	<atom:link href="http://boakandbailey.com/2008/03/30/the-language-we-use/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://boakandbailey.com/2008/03/30/the-language-we-use/</link>
	<description></description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:35:49 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=abc</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Hop Talk &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Session #14: Beer People</title>
		<link>http://boakandbailey.com/2008/03/30/the-language-we-use/comment-page-1/#comment-13707</link>
		<dc:creator>Hop Talk &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Session #14: Beer People</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 15:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boakandbailey.com/?p=510#comment-13707</guid>
		<description>[...] &#8220;beer nerd&#8221; (and then more spirited comments). I tried to stay out of it, but then Boak (or was it Bailey?) weighed in as well, suggesting they don&#8217;t mind the term and don&amp;#8217..., in spite of what Stonch says (and then later embraces&#8230;sort [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;beer nerd&#8221; (and then more spirited comments). I tried to stay out of it, but then Boak (or was it Bailey?) weighed in as well, suggesting they don&#8217;t mind the term and don&amp;#8217&#8230;, in spite of what Stonch says (and then later embraces&#8230;sort [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ally</title>
		<link>http://boakandbailey.com/2008/03/30/the-language-we-use/comment-page-1/#comment-7771</link>
		<dc:creator>Ally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 06:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boakandbailey.com/?p=510#comment-7771</guid>
		<description>Another great topic-- I think in America the word &quot;geek&quot; as an embracing term came about after the dot-com boom where a lot of former-dorks, the victims of playground torment as children, were suddenly rich and powerful.  

While &quot;geek&quot; annoys me from a purely bitter-grapes point of view (being untouched by the prosperous tech fairy) I still use it to describe behavior in myself or another beer lover-- where we are fixating on some specific aspect of a beer that other people who weren&#039;t so into it would just be bored by the details. 

I was really surprised to find that in the UK, loving real ale meant you were a fusty, bearded freak. In cosmopolitan parts of America it&#039;s hip to love real beer (albeit with the aforementioned geek set) so the use of &quot;geek&quot; there is really ironic and slightly self deprecating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great topic&#8211; I think in America the word &#8220;geek&#8221; as an embracing term came about after the dot-com boom where a lot of former-dorks, the victims of playground torment as children, were suddenly rich and powerful.  </p>
<p>While &#8220;geek&#8221; annoys me from a purely bitter-grapes point of view (being untouched by the prosperous tech fairy) I still use it to describe behavior in myself or another beer lover&#8211; where we are fixating on some specific aspect of a beer that other people who weren&#8217;t so into it would just be bored by the details. </p>
<p>I was really surprised to find that in the UK, loving real ale meant you were a fusty, bearded freak. In cosmopolitan parts of America it&#8217;s hip to love real beer (albeit with the aforementioned geek set) so the use of &#8220;geek&#8221; there is really ironic and slightly self deprecating.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://boakandbailey.com/2008/03/30/the-language-we-use/comment-page-1/#comment-6004</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 22:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boakandbailey.com/?p=510#comment-6004</guid>
		<description>********* people!  Beerist is an easy thing to remember.  Purist, artist, beer ... put it altogether.  Beerist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>********* people!  Beerist is an easy thing to remember.  Purist, artist, beer &#8230; put it altogether.  Beerist.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Chela</title>
		<link>http://boakandbailey.com/2008/03/30/the-language-we-use/comment-page-1/#comment-5907</link>
		<dc:creator>Chela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boakandbailey.com/?p=510#comment-5907</guid>
		<description>Boak, try to say &quot;Grimbergen&quot; after  5 pints, that&#039;s &quot;language juggling&quot;, in comparison &quot;aficionado&quot; it&#039;s a piece of cake!!!!

Lew, Random answer to one of your random thoughts: 

Connoisseur is more  pompous than aficionado because is a French word hehehehe. 
Maybe you are right, aficionado, as a foreign term in English is quite pompous but I was talking about the sense it has in Spanish when used applied to, for instance, this matter.


Definitely Beer Enthusiast, beer lover and beer dog are the best and I&#039;m a &quot;much&quot; of the three...
Haya Salud</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boak, try to say &#8220;Grimbergen&#8221; after  5 pints, that&#8217;s &#8220;language juggling&#8221;, in comparison &#8220;aficionado&#8221; it&#8217;s a piece of cake!!!!</p>
<p>Lew, Random answer to one of your random thoughts: </p>
<p>Connoisseur is more  pompous than aficionado because is a French word hehehehe.<br />
Maybe you are right, aficionado, as a foreign term in English is quite pompous but I was talking about the sense it has in Spanish when used applied to, for instance, this matter.</p>
<p>Definitely Beer Enthusiast, beer lover and beer dog are the best and I&#8217;m a &#8220;much&#8221; of the three&#8230;<br />
Haya Salud</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lew Bryson</title>
		<link>http://boakandbailey.com/2008/03/30/the-language-we-use/comment-page-1/#comment-5899</link>
		<dc:creator>Lew Bryson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boakandbailey.com/?p=510#comment-5899</guid>
		<description>Random thoughts: 

I wrote that post because people kept giving me hell for using &quot;beer geek&quot; in my writing. They want me to come up with something else. 

I agree with Stonch: &quot;beer geek&quot; doesn&#039;t seem to have the baggage in the UK that it does in the US.

Pattinson&#039;s a pisshead. I might be too.

I am at a loss to see why connoisseur is pompous and aficionado isn&#039;t. 

I like &quot;beer dog.&quot; I could call myself a beer dog. 

It bothers me a little that being a whisky geek is somehow considered classier than being a beer geek. And let&#039;s not even get into the wine &lt;i&gt;aficionoisseurs.&lt;/i&gt;

And if anyone&#039;s a nerd...I was a librarian, a Novell network technician, and I played Dungeons &amp; Dragons before I took up my new career. Beer geek is a step up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Random thoughts: </p>
<p>I wrote that post because people kept giving me hell for using &#8220;beer geek&#8221; in my writing. They want me to come up with something else. </p>
<p>I agree with Stonch: &#8220;beer geek&#8221; doesn&#8217;t seem to have the baggage in the UK that it does in the US.</p>
<p>Pattinson&#8217;s a pisshead. I might be too.</p>
<p>I am at a loss to see why connoisseur is pompous and aficionado isn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>I like &#8220;beer dog.&#8221; I could call myself a beer dog. </p>
<p>It bothers me a little that being a whisky geek is somehow considered classier than being a beer geek. And let&#8217;s not even get into the wine <i>aficionoisseurs.</i></p>
<p>And if anyone&#8217;s a nerd&#8230;I was a librarian, a Novell network technician, and I played Dungeons &amp; Dragons before I took up my new career. Beer geek is a step up.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: twarin</title>
		<link>http://boakandbailey.com/2008/03/30/the-language-we-use/comment-page-1/#comment-5891</link>
		<dc:creator>twarin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 13:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boakandbailey.com/?p=510#comment-5891</guid>
		<description>After reading Stonch&#039;s posts, I&#039;m in love with &quot;Beardy Weirdy&quot; as the new term of choice for beer folk.  Even for those of us without beards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading Stonch&#8217;s posts, I&#8217;m in love with &#8220;Beardy Weirdy&#8221; as the new term of choice for beer folk.  Even for those of us without beards.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: The Beer Nut</title>
		<link>http://boakandbailey.com/2008/03/30/the-language-we-use/comment-page-1/#comment-5888</link>
		<dc:creator>The Beer Nut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boakandbailey.com/?p=510#comment-5888</guid>
		<description>Twelve Hail Marys for taking the Irish literary canon in vain, Stonch.

It&#039;s a very interesting point about &quot;beer geek&quot; not being applicable to the UK because there&#039;s already a culture of beardy beer neepery particularly associated with CAMRA sterotypes.

Whereas here in Ireland there is no such culture and, despite using basically the same vocabulary as the UK, we have readily adopted &quot;beer geek&quot; because we have no words of our own for it. Though it may also have something to do with the fact that a lot of Irish beer geeks work in the IT business.

I would make the point, however, that it&#039;s impossible to be a beer geek and a real ale purist. Proper geekery is all-encompassing and doesn&#039;t depend on sources of carbon dioxide. Discusses it, at length, but doesn&#039;t depend on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twelve Hail Marys for taking the Irish literary canon in vain, Stonch.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a very interesting point about &#8220;beer geek&#8221; not being applicable to the UK because there&#8217;s already a culture of beardy beer neepery particularly associated with CAMRA sterotypes.</p>
<p>Whereas here in Ireland there is no such culture and, despite using basically the same vocabulary as the UK, we have readily adopted &#8220;beer geek&#8221; because we have no words of our own for it. Though it may also have something to do with the fact that a lot of Irish beer geeks work in the IT business.</p>
<p>I would make the point, however, that it&#8217;s impossible to be a beer geek and a real ale purist. Proper geekery is all-encompassing and doesn&#8217;t depend on sources of carbon dioxide. Discusses it, at length, but doesn&#8217;t depend on it.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://boakandbailey.com/2008/03/30/the-language-we-use/comment-page-1/#comment-5882</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 00:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boakandbailey.com/?p=510#comment-5882</guid>
		<description>I now only call myself what Knut says is the traditional term in Norway - beer dog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I now only call myself what Knut says is the traditional term in Norway &#8211; beer dog.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://boakandbailey.com/2008/03/30/the-language-we-use/comment-page-1/#comment-5881</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boakandbailey.com/?p=510#comment-5881</guid>
		<description>I have been biting my tongue while reading Lew&#039;s page but I have to say that I was a nerd before I started drinking beer and I am still a nerd in spite of the cool beer I drink.
(As a note of reference I looked up to see if I should use &quot;in spite of&quot; or &quot;despite&quot; and as I suspected they are synonymous.)
Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been biting my tongue while reading Lew&#8217;s page but I have to say that I was a nerd before I started drinking beer and I am still a nerd in spite of the cool beer I drink.<br />
(As a note of reference I looked up to see if I should use &#8220;in spite of&#8221; or &#8220;despite&#8221; and as I suspected they are synonymous.)<br />
Cheers</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Stonch</title>
		<link>http://boakandbailey.com/2008/03/30/the-language-we-use/comment-page-1/#comment-5880</link>
		<dc:creator>Stonch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://boakandbailey.com/?p=510#comment-5880</guid>
		<description>I confess.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://stonch.blogspot.com/2008/04/i-am-geek.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I AM A GEEK!&lt;/a&gt;

Quickest blog post I&#039;ve ever written is that one. Pure stream of consciousness. Joyceian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I confess.</p>
<p><a href="http://stonch.blogspot.com/2008/04/i-am-geek.html" rel="nofollow">I AM A GEEK!</a></p>
<p>Quickest blog post I&#8217;ve ever written is that one. Pure stream of consciousness. Joyceian.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
