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		<title>By: Thom</title>
		<link>http://boakandbailey.com/2009/07/16/too-thin-too-bitter/comment-page-1/#comment-14970</link>
		<dc:creator>Thom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to be in the minority, but I rather enjoyed it. Strange because usually over carbonation ruins a beer for me. I really liked the bitterness and found it quite refreshing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to be in the minority, but I rather enjoyed it. Strange because usually over carbonation ruins a beer for me. I really liked the bitterness and found it quite refreshing.</p>
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		<title>By: Oblivious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oblivious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 07:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did like it but the carbonate rate takes away from the beer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did like it but the carbonate rate takes away from the beer</p>
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		<title>By: Pivní Filosof</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pivní Filosof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,

I was speaking in relative terms, of course. The price will be considerably increased by transportation costs, custom duties, etc, etc. 

Now that I can compare it with the price of the Barley Wine, I think £4.50 for a 660ml bottle is rather reasonable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>I was speaking in relative terms, of course. The price will be considerably increased by transportation costs, custom duties, etc, etc. </p>
<p>Now that I can compare it with the price of the Barley Wine, I think £4.50 for a 660ml bottle is rather reasonable.</p>
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		<title>By: LEONARDO</title>
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		<dc:creator>LEONARDO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello, very good blog. im argentine. my blog beer is in englan and spanish. sorry my english.
leonardo garcia
http://mislatasdezerveza.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello, very good blog. im argentine. my blog beer is in englan and spanish. sorry my english.<br />
leonardo garcia<br />
<a href="http://mislatasdezerveza.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://mislatasdezerveza.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pivni Filosof -- it&#039;s not cheap, but not that expensive for an import, either. The barley wine goes for c.£3.50 for 330ml.

Hello, Matt and Kelly. Thanks to both of you for chipping in. We&#039;d much rather have had a bottle of Liberty, with hindsight. What it reminded us of most was &lt;a href=&quot;http://boakandbailey.com/2009/01/12/lesser-spotted-badger-beers/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Badger&#039;s low alcohol bottled ale&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pivni Filosof &#8212; it&#8217;s not cheap, but not that expensive for an import, either. The barley wine goes for c.£3.50 for 330ml.</p>
<p>Hello, Matt and Kelly. Thanks to both of you for chipping in. We&#8217;d much rather have had a bottle of Liberty, with hindsight. What it reminded us of most was <a href="http://boakandbailey.com/2009/01/12/lesser-spotted-badger-beers/" rel="nofollow">Badger&#8217;s low alcohol bottled ale</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will have to agree, when I tried it from the bottle found little balance with an assertive, almost stinging bitterness. I love a bitter beer, but considering it lacked a little on the hop aroma as well, just wasn&#039;t my favourite! Give me a Liberty any day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will have to agree, when I tried it from the bottle found little balance with an assertive, almost stinging bitterness. I love a bitter beer, but considering it lacked a little on the hop aroma as well, just wasn&#8217;t my favourite! Give me a Liberty any day!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Navarre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Navarre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Being that is made with “leftovers”, it should be rather cheap…&lt;/i&gt;

Really? Why? Even though it&#039;s made from second (or third, or whatever) runnings, it still takes time to lauter &amp; boil, hops, fermenter space to ferment, time to filter and package, etc.

Really, all you&#039;re saving is the cost of the grist, which is significant but probably outweighed by the cost of hops, labor and packaging. And shipping to England. I doubt that&#039;s particularly cheap.

Sorry, not trying to be a jerk. I think you just hit a nerve.

As for the beer? I&#039;ve only had it from a keg, and then it&#039;s only traveled 800 miles instead of 8000, but yes it&#039;s on the thin side, but I don&#039;t think I&#039;d describe it as astringent, more dry and slightly chalky, with a definite hop bitterness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Being that is made with “leftovers”, it should be rather cheap…</i></p>
<p>Really? Why? Even though it&#8217;s made from second (or third, or whatever) runnings, it still takes time to lauter &amp; boil, hops, fermenter space to ferment, time to filter and package, etc.</p>
<p>Really, all you&#8217;re saving is the cost of the grist, which is significant but probably outweighed by the cost of hops, labor and packaging. And shipping to England. I doubt that&#8217;s particularly cheap.</p>
<p>Sorry, not trying to be a jerk. I think you just hit a nerve.</p>
<p>As for the beer? I&#8217;ve only had it from a keg, and then it&#8217;s only traveled 800 miles instead of 8000, but yes it&#8217;s on the thin side, but I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d describe it as astringent, more dry and slightly chalky, with a definite hop bitterness.</p>
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		<title>By: Pivní Filosof</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t know if that is cheap or expensive there.... What&#039;s the price of the Barley Wine?</description>
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		<title>By: Ron Pattinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Pattinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Using just the second runnings is pretty well bound to give you a thin beer. In the 18th century they usually &quot;capped&quot; the mash with some fresh malt when brewing this way. The Victorians were cleverer. When they party-gyled they always used some of the first runnings in the weakest beers.

Of course, the 18th-century way of mashing was very different to the modern approach. They would mash 3 or 4 times and not sparge. 

Apologies for getting all technical.

Oh yes, and small beer was essentially a safe substitute for water, not a drink to savour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using just the second runnings is pretty well bound to give you a thin beer. In the 18th century they usually &#8220;capped&#8221; the mash with some fresh malt when brewing this way. The Victorians were cleverer. When they party-gyled they always used some of the first runnings in the weakest beers.</p>
<p>Of course, the 18th-century way of mashing was very different to the modern approach. They would mash 3 or 4 times and not sparge. </p>
<p>Apologies for getting all technical.</p>
<p>Oh yes, and small beer was essentially a safe substitute for water, not a drink to savour.</p>
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		<title>By: Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About £4.50 for 660ml? Something like that.</description>
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