Old recipes, etiquette and wallop

1912 St Austell Stout

Being some notes and queries on sub­jects diverse.

Even more beers brewed to his­toric recipes

About this time last year, we tried to com­pile a rea­son­ably com­plete list of beers being brewed to his­toric recipes. Now we note that one of the beers in the Sains­bury’s beer hunt is J.W. Lees Man­ches­ter Star, sup­pos­ed­ly brewed to an 1884 porter recipe, and also hear news of a St Austell 1913 stout. (We’ve seen a recipe in their books from 1912, pic­tured.) The lat­est Fuller’s Past Mas­ters beer, 1931 Bur­ton Extra, has just been released. This sum­mer also saw Cam­den brew a 1908 pale ale which was very tasty, but seemed (too us) rather too far from the orig­i­nal spec to real­ly deserve the ‘his­toric’ tag.

Ques­tions of pub eti­quette

Maxwell asked this ques­tion on Twit­ter last night:

It’s a good ques­tion. Our feel­ing was that, if you need to ask, then you’re not eli­gi­ble, but can any­one give a more help­ful answer?

The mean­ing of ‘wal­lop’

Watch­ing the BFI’s Roll out the Bar­rel DVD again the oth­er night, we par­tic­u­lar­ly enjoyed Down at the Local (1945), a pro­pa­gan­da short made for British troops serv­ing over­seas. It was designed to remind them of home, and of why they were fight­ing, and shows scenes of pubs in Lon­don, Lan­cashire and Som­er­set. In Lon­don, the nar­ra­tors decide on mild and so ask the bar­maid for ‘two pints of wal­lop’. In Pre­ston, inci­den­tal­ly, they decide on bit­ter and mild and so order ‘mixed’.

A sec­ond talk at Eden

The Boak and Bai­ley edu­tain­ment road­show was at the Eden Project again last week­end. There was no Oakham Green Dev­il  IPA to demon­strate with this time, though, as it all got pil­fered from a store cup­board. They left behind the St Austell HSD and Franziskan­er.


2 thoughts on “Old recipes, etiquette and wallop”

  1. I think I was pon­der­ing more on how nowa­days where soci­ety is so much more tran­sient due to work pres­sures but also trans­port avail­abil­i­ty that, do peo­ple still have a local in the old sense of the word?

    Had the old boys with their tankards hang­ing up been going into the same pub almost exclu­sive­ly for the last 20 or 30 years?

    I’ve just moved to my fourth town, I’m in my thir­ties, I don’t think that’s par­tic­u­lar­ly unusu­al in this day and age. I’ve found a nice pub in South West Lon­don I’d be hap­py to spend a lot of time in but there is always the temp­ta­tion to go to Cask, Euston Tap, Craft Beer Co etc.

    I guess what I’m ram­bling about is that, will there be those sort of local estab­lish­ments when I’m in my six­ties or sev­en­ties for me to even have a tankard in or will life be just one big pub crawl/beer fes­ti­val from now on?

  2. At the risk of being an UTTER DICKHEAD (cards on table), when I bought the 1840s quart-sized beer con­tain­ing thingie, I learned it was not a “tankard” but a “pot” as there was no lid. That being said, I have always been leery of the rows of mugs by any oth­er name up there due to the like­li­hood they are coat­ed with gak. I want to bring in my own drink­ing ves­sel with me.

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